hello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.
in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.
the name is robert.
Obviously, I had no right to judge as I was judging a huge community of different backgrounds
Feel free to judge them all as if they believed exactly the same, because they do. It's a high mind control group. They all are forced to do and think alike, even if it cost them their lives (blood policy), family unity (shunning) and sacrificing your dreams (no higher education, no material things, poverty vows) to serve a heartless corporation.
hello all.... i am new here so i figured i'd make a quick post introducing myself and giving a brief intro as to who i am and what i'm here for... as well as to hopefully meet others.. so, i made a profile and in it i gave a pretty detailed explanation as to my intent here and exactly why i decided to participate in the boards.
in case you don't read it, i'll give a brief summary.
the name is robert.
Your excessive use of the word "truth" makes you a perfect candidate for the Jehovah's Witnesses. Give it a try. You will fit quite well.
in the 1960`s when i was a new convert , a 20 year old , i devoured the book "jehovahs witnesses in the divine purpose" outlining the early history of the restoration of true christianity in the world.it helped to convince me then that this was indeed the true religion......not that i remember much of the details it contained nowadays .. i understand there was a poor attempt to mimic it with the " proclaimers " book a much sanitized version of the early history of the jw religion.
what reputable organization in the world ,secular ,religious or otherwise ,doctors their own early history/ beginnings unless they have something to hide or are ashamed of.. how many jw`s today would know that they were formed as the " international bible students association" in the late 1800`s , or that their first president of that association was none other than w.h.conley ,and not c.t.russell.. does it even matter ?
does anybody really care ?.
Do you think the average JW today are aware of these facts or even cares about them ?
Most not aware, the others don't care.
Are they bible students or not ?
They are watchtower students
study edition.
january 2017.
(can someone put up a link please?).
the day when we(you and I and 8 million others) will all go up in flames
try over 7 BILLIONS
so the wife was watching the latest installment of jw broadcasting and near the end there was a new segment on dating and courtship.
it starts at about the 39 minute mark:.
https://youtu.be/vuir-azsdm0?t=38m52s.
Blatant attempt to keep women single and pioneering. No wonder so many women never marry
letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
Thanks sp74bb. I missed it because it was right after the letter from Bethel and seemed to be part of it.
Based on the content of the letter, these are not elders who are just concerned about themselves, they are apostate elders who want to hurt the Watchtower. I hope it works.
letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
Where's the letter from elders to the Ministry of Justice? Anyone can make up stuff. So far the opening piece offers nothing
letter sent today to the ministry of justice... .
spain bethel sent a letter recently last oct 3 interpreting that no elder or sm should request a certificate of sexual offenses as other churches or persons in contact with kids.
again jw.org interprets the law to their behalf.. a group of elders in madrid has sent this letter to ask clarification !!.
Where's the original in Spanish? Something fishy here.
counterfactual histories (where historians or journalists imagine how it would have turned out if history had taken a different path at a crucial moment) have become really popular in recent years.
they have also gained greater academic credibility, having previously been dismissed as frivolous or analytically irrelevant by serious minded historians.
now even senior academic historians, such as richard evans, extol the virtues of counterfactual history as a way of exploring cause and effect, and distinguishing long term trends from serendipitous contingencies.
i have not been active here lately just lurking mostly but i have no one to talk to and i need some help i guess.i started working out and became friends with my personal trainer(we went to school together).i started going out with him(lying to my mother about what i was doing,another thing to add to the list of lies,it's becoming too easy!
) and i notice i'm slowly becoming the worldy people that the jw's described.i've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.i always thought the values that jw's taught were really good.if i cut ties with the only friend i have now , i would probably slip into a deep depression and i that is something that i want to avoid at all costs.i start university in january and my plan was to stick it out in the organisation until i got my degree and became fully independant but as of late a elder told me i am being considered to become a m.s and told me what i need to work on and since then the other elders have been nagging me to work on the same things.i'm trying to rid my self of my 'priveleges' in the cong but nothings working...if anyone has experienced a similar situation what advice would you give?
, oh and my mom was always super into the religion having been a pioneer and bethel worker for years but we went to the regional convention two weeks ago and now she is even more exasperating (for example a sister asked my why i was 19 years old and not a ms or serving at bethel yet, which is fine i've learnt how to deal with these questions but when i told my mother whom has always been content with me just being in the religion and never pushed me towards anything asked me if i was happy with what i was and if i would not be happier at bethel or regular pioneering.
I've become very selfish and rude and very apathetic towards everything and everyone.I always thought the values that jw's taught were really good
Maybe you have always been selfish, rude and apathetic towards other people. The difference is that while you were under the influence of JW dogma, you were scared into submission and you behaved like a good person, but the core of your person has always been the same.
It's time to get a moral compass, without having to resort to the guidance of a book that contains a morality that was appropriate 2,500 years ago. Join charitable groups, real charitable groups. Participate in community efforts to improve your community. In other words, befriend and learn from the real good people, not pious hypocrites driven by self interest to get a reward or approval.
